119 freely shares as much as it canand fully intends to continue to do so, as long as Yahweh allows this ministry to perform this role. Do his commandments. But Ive also known some real great RCs who walk their talk and are honorable folks. It was not nailed to the cross, the law of sin and death was. Wake up world! 5:20 unless your righteousness surpasses the scribes and Pharisees, you shall not enter the Kingdom of heaven. The common Jews who heard this must have thought this is impossible to do. Thus the need for a Savior, Lord, King and High Priest for sin shall not be master over us for we are not under Torah but born again into the new covenant of grace in Christ. This is why we are not under the law when we are in Christ. And I can say that since my former neighbor went to Seminary and became a pastor himself. Because mankind broke Covenant, YHWH requires complete renovation on OUR part, not YHWHs part of the Covenant. You are going to have to define grace so I know what you mean when you use the word. Just would like to see how you think. Peter decided that the church would not impose the Jewish law upon gentile believers, but that the church would treat the sacrament of Baptism as initiation into the faith with no further requirements. Here we see that after salvation that we are to DO righteousness which is obeying the commandments of God. . it is easy to attack what we dont understand! document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Part 1 I Have prayed about and read the Bible and find much Biblical support for what they are teaching. The stuff in the Torah just lays out examples of what to do in different situations. Hello! The relationship between a parent and child is always the parents responsibility. Can you without any doubt, prove that Christianity with all its incorporated man-made traditions and rules with one head pastor today reflects the original Way of the Apostles after Pentecost as commanded in the Scriptures? As for ACTS 10 Peter himself clarifies what his vision was about in verse 34. Bless you bro! One reason I despise nationalism ..including secular Israel for it separates . The old commandment is the word which you have heard from the beginning.. The truth as presented by the whole word of God, Genesis-Revelation, the fallacy of needing to follow the law under the new covenant, and illogical hugeness of Gods grace. He is a Jewish man not a pagan diety. 26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. Sowho are they and what did they miss or do wrong? Do you know why Yahusha spoke in parables? Mens hearts are wicked, Yahweh would never put it on us to figure out what is right and wrong. He needs truth. I took your comment to be a misrepresentation of how you really felt. May 24, 2022. For example, before my family and I started to observe the sabbath there were some who said if we did not observe sabbath we were going to hell (with no scriptural support). You will actually see the Torah come alive. Could it be fear? -Philippians 3:9, 3 For not knowing about Gods righteousness and seeking to establish their own, they did not subject themselves to the righteousness of God. Leah, I believe my sister and mother have been hooked in by 119. Fears of satanic influence drive errant behavior! And some of us listen to God. Search your spirit, you know they are right. For more on what we believe, please see this. Theyre traditional. I am so blessed that you can lay it out in such a simple and understandable way.I was a very strong supporter of 119 ministry and only pray they have their eyes opened to this error soon and make it public as many are being led by these men. In the Days of Noah, the NEPHILIM(giants) wreaked havoc and were destroyed by the flood. Sorry I couldnt make that more user-friendly. Its no coincidence that Yeshua said that not everyone who calls him Lord belongs to him, or will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. In fact, our atheist friends were once Christians but rejected the church because they have nothing different to offer. And another challenged me, and another and so I decided to prove them wrong. (2Co 11:6) But even if I am unskilled in word,b yet not in knowledge; but, in every way we have been manifested among you in all matters. We believe our Messiah (Jesus/Yeshua) taught the Torah and obeyed it perfectly. After all of that this is what Ive found to be true (that I believe)..There is only 1 God. When I was a young man, another man owed me money and said he was ready to pay. I think most of the issue people have with them is that they are challenging you to walk away from the spoon fed teachings your pastor gives you, and to break out a concordance to do some digging and studying on your own. the one who accuses you is Moses, in whom you have set your hope. (As a RC, I was challenged at college by JWs, Muslims, Jews, etc. I was raised, as many are, to believe that we are given grace by the blood of Jesus which is the atonement of sin and by this grace we are free from the bondage of the law. But then I was stirred in my spirit and there was a yearning for something deeper which would not let me be. Lust after his wife? 5 (4) You are to follow ADONAI your God, fear him, obey his mitzvot (commandment), listen to what he says, serve him and cling to him; 6 (5) and that prophet or dreamer is to be put to death; because he urged rebellion against ADONAI your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt and redeemed you from a life of slavery; in order to seduce you away from the path ADONAI your God ordered you to follow. Every question I have ever had about the bible or meaning of a verse, 119 has been able to answer in a way that makes sense. Tim is the author of this site (since 1999) and the book Know the Future that explains Revelation literally at last--including the key event of Wormwood (Rev 6-8). Words have power. Pauline Christianity comes from Rome. Its an active life of obeying not a static state of being. This 28 minute teaching gives great insigh. The adversary is doing well at the divide and conquer tactic especially with all those denominations and it is grievous. Titus 3:9-11, Complete Jewish Bible (emphasis added). Also did you know the proto-hebrew and aramaic is more similiar to english than modern Hebrew in appearance and infact it looks like the letters were just turned sideways. And if Jesus lied in Matthew 5:17-19 then that disqualifies him as Messiah. I believe thats the role of the Holy Spirit as I read actual Scripture. Leah and Everyone -Luke 10:21, And regarding the at least they will still see heaven No they wont. Which is again a huge example of the importance of freedom in Christ. You might want to check out this free book thats been around since the 90s.. You never know whats gonna happen! Left Behind is Back! Mary came on Sunday morning because the Sabbath had ended. From all I can tell there is just a deception that falls over someone & they accept things they never would normally. Yes. If God is going to judge us based on our sins, what kind of law book is He going to go by? Ive seen so many changes in the last 3 decades in Christendom. We have found returning to the Way nothing short of freeing and could only wish more believers would dare to try and love Yahweh according to the WAY He commands usnothing more and nothing less. And I experience Gods presence everyday! I bet you believe the laws are not for us either??? Yes, Father, for this way was well-pleasing in Your sight. They are teachers of the Hebrew Roots cult. If it were truly new as we understand in modern English, it would have been neos in Greek. I understand what you are saying Leah, however, your perception and what you call free could be interpreted as doing what is right in your eyes. So we still FOLLOW Gods laws..we just are not condemned for breaking them now.we had a substitute for that curse of death, someone who led a perfect life free of sin.showing it IS possible..who is now our HIGH PRIEST.and we can approach Gods throne DIRECTLY now because of His Jesus unblemished sacrifice for us.before, under the old and done away with covenant. When you uphold the commandments of our most High God, you are not by any means nullifying the grace given to you at the Cross! Current Hebrew rabbis are not using the scriptural calendar for the seventh day Shabbat. Servethe Body of the Messiah by offering free, testable, easily sharable, quality teachings for you and your house. And now that the Seed has come, we are no longer under the custody or the tutor. I dont know about you, but I dont relish the idea of living in a house with no roof, especially when its raining or snowing outside. (Renewed because the Greek is kainos not neos. 28 With respect to the Good News they are hated for your sake. The best thing I have found is study the Scripture all while asking the Holy Spirit to teach you truth by it. Are you speaking life with yours? I thank thee Lord that I am not like the deceived Christians that do not follow your law . Amen! It supported them, along with some of the sacrifices that were made. He is calling His people, Jew and Gentile, to Himself though Yeshua, and by His Spirit. Faith without works is sterile ..it can not reproduce . Have a nice life. 3 teaches the NC in present tense We believe our Messiah (Jesus/Yeshua) taught the Torah and obeyed it perfectly. And neither are we left to figure out right and wrong by ourselves. You are CHOOSING to dismiss that evidence based on a conspiracy theory. And not all of it applies to everyone anyways. These command are not brand-new: You shall love the Lord your God (Deut 6:4) along with You shall love your neighbour as yourself (Lev 19:18). I shared with him that this was happening all over the world, according to many witnesses who have come to us. Pauls original readers were not relying on Websters dictionary to define the words Paul used. Messiah lived in complete obedience to the Law of Moses. This is why people who take the Bible seriously cannot take YOU seriously, Pete. matthew jones mock draft 2022. And while I applaud 119 Ministries for their teachings, I think that we should all continue to follow their wise advice and test everything they say against the backdrop of Scripture, just as the Bereans did when they listed to Rav Shaul (Apostle Paul) preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom in the towns that he and Luke visited. I started studying the Hebrew Roots Movement about seven years ago, and 119 is one of the newer but more prolific 'ministries . 2nd Hour.mp3 Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. His Feast days are a prophetic picture of the redemption of mankind!! 3 So whatever they tell you, take care to do it. . He is prefacing the people with an important message I have not come to abolish the law and the prophets so lets consider the following option of Pleroo but to properly teach you or let me put it this way (me speaking) to fill up the holes in your understanding i.e. I have tried to see if HR Will stand and Act on the Very Instruction of Savior- master- King Jesus. 21 Not everyone who says to Me, Lord, Lord, shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Im almost a senior. What is the problem with throwing around Greek and Hebrew when THOSE are the original languages of the Holy Scriptures? You can not deny that Sunday worship is an institution of man, for God calls the seventh day of the week the Sabbath, all you need to do is look at your calendar, mine says that is Saturday! The problem is neither side could provide in context scriptures to support their claims. And in the whole discourse of John 14 where Jesus is talking about He & the Father being one, Jesus never once mentions obeying Torah. (2Pe 3:18) but grow in the favour and knowledge of our Master and Saviour ????? So now that I have a like-minded brother in Christ, I am truly interested to know how you reconcile the teachings of 119 Ministries (as I understand them presented above) to your stated beliefs in your earlier reply. Let me know if you have any questions. They have frequently made it clear that salvation is a free gift offered through YHWHs grace and that following the Torah, the Law, is the natural response of a believer who has been saved by grace. All 119 is trying to do is truly, unbiasedly challenge believers in Yeshua to test and prove what they believe. cult/noun noun: cult; plural noun: cults We want to please our Father/Bridegroom-to-be dont we? I also agree with Bill Carmichael who stated that 119 (and not 911) Ministries is Real breath of fresh air. The three are most certainly related!! because James (Jacob) says otherwise. Using minimal staff aids our efforts to effectively deliver free quality teachings to all. For example, I do not entirely agree with their teaching regarding head-coverings. That God has dealt with all men the same way. Again, thank you for your thoughtful & kind reply. I have found that depending on who you talk to, different people make alliances for not keeping every aspect of Torah so excuses are made. There is simply freedom in Christ which has been bought by blood. to cause to fall, fell, throw down, knock out, lay prostrate Folks, wake up, this is Roman Catholic doctrine! There does however remain there can be only one interpretation. Different altogether. The tossing of natural debased people of Pentecostal delusions are a Prevelant movement into hebrew roots movement. Get a taste for the real calling on Adam then we can talk. Divide and conquer has always been the Adversarys favorite tool to use against believers. 1. to cause to abound, to furnish or supply liberally I submit if it is abolished then what rule to we measure against? That person is just ignorant and/or deceived in their biblical understandings? In the end HaSatan will roam around the earth to see who he can devour. No. There are many books on this subject but his is the best Ive found. However I do not condemn them for worshipping on Sunday. The blood of goats and calves was a symbolic picture of the blood bought, prophesied and glorious New Covenant of grace we are born again into!!!!! And before you say that the Torah or the Prophets have no value in your life read this: Rav Shaul (Apostle Paul to the non-Jewish converts of his day and modern-day Christians) even told Timothy in his second letter (2 Tim 3:16-17) All Scripture is God-breathed and is valuable for teaching the truth, convicting of sin, correcting faults and training in right living; thus anyone who belongs to God may be fully equipped for every good work. Please note that at the time Rav Shaul wrote this statement, the Tanakh (Old Testament) were the only written Scriptures available, either in Hebrew or Koine Greek. Dont follow the words of a man. I will pray for your husband. It is a fact that the bible was originally written in Hebrew and since then been translated by many different tongues. Frankly, in this view, there is nothing *new* that comes with Jesus (who simply affirms Torah-keeping and becomes the sacrifice for those who break Torah). There is a way that seems right unto man and that way leads to death . (paraphrased). Testing everything is what the Church should be espousing, after all. Theres one student there whos been a part of the Hebraic Roots movement for as long as Ive known him and maybe longer. I cannot say when I will get to your suggested read on Galations, but Ill work that way. Not everything is clear this why we have to test everything the openly say and test everything preach. Then I realized our error and it was very subtle ..We never looked at where WE might be in error . Respectfully, I ask you to think on this. Perfection doesnt need to be changed, Leah, otherwise it is not perfection. [1] Moreover, he proposed What shall we Christians do with this rejected and condemned people, the Jews:[1] Remember that this is in reference to believers during the upcoming end times tribulation. -1 Peter 3:15-16, 1 I charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by his appearing and his kingdom: 2 preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching. 119 ministries sells stuff too so it seems hardly anyone is free from it it seems we just buy and sell . We are not under the Law.what do you think that means..? Because the vast majority is quite clear. What he says still stands. I think some things are correct where I think others not so much. 5:1). Come and walk around the east coast city I live in with me and you will SEE how an experiential walk with the living new covenant Torah is like. This new covenant has a torah as instructed by Messiah himself. I only engage with people who take the Bible seriously and who base their beliefs on sound exegesis. And just like Shaual, I too am of the tribe of Binyamin (Benjamin in English), not to mention several others. If you dont agree with 119 ministries, it more than likely means you DO NOT agree with scripture. My biggest issue is the very condemning nature of most of their material and the fact that they believe only they have all the answers. As it relates to our credibility, we readily admit that we have none. A person cant call their self a disciple of Jesus without looking at the original languages of the scriptures? Ever wonder why so many Christians are becoming more like the world? I was in a Southern Baptist church for 20 years until friends shared some We are Christian, Protestant, evangelical, theologically conservative, and non-denominational. He alone is Gods Word and Truth. Jesus further defines the Torah and the prophets. The entire OT bears witness to Jesus Christ whose testimony IS the spirit of prophecy. Jesus came to teach the Torah the right way. Nobody has it 100% right yet. This is perhaps one of the more brilliant deceptions written by 119 Ministries. not according to Tim Paula. Yes, Amen, Jesus Christ IS our New Covenant Torah who took me out of living on the streets and shelters for 8 months; ( I was kicked out of the shelter) and now own property and live in the same town as Mitt Romney. Jewish Boy Natans Near Death Experience: From God or Something Else? I just believe there is so much MORE to learn about our Creator and Messiah well before the Apostolic Scriptures, and that nobody is denying Messiahs work at the cross by trying to trust Gods wisdom in dietary and holy days. 6 But the righteousness based on faith speaks as follows: Do not say in your heart, Who will ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down), 7 or Who will descend into the abyss? (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead). 8 But what does it say? and without him nothing made had being. As Dale Carnegie said A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.. We just dont keep all the ceremonial laws Well except for tithing, this is a principle of God that doesnt change. Therefore, brethren, since we have confidence to enter the holy place by the blood of Jesus, 20 by a new and living way which He inaugurated for us through the veil, that is, His flesh Heb. Wake up and read the Word with the TRUE discernment of the Holy Spirit!! Until someone provides an example of their actual false teaching and not merely a disagreement of conclusions then I will side with 119 approach to testing everything. In this study, get those answers and the one requirement for salvation Jesus taught (that Christianity misses) so that you can make sure you don't hear these dreaded words yourself! That includes ALL Jews as well as anyone else! I cant honestly have a headache, but I did want to give my common since and common knowledge opinion. But well thats the way it is. He cant have two heads any more that we can. In a world with over 33,000 Christian denominations arguments over doctrine, as seen here, are common. You wrote [w]hat scholars are interested in Thats interesting. Is there a way that the link in the email could go directly to the comment that was posted to instead of scrolling through all of them? Jesus Himself holds the keys to death and hades.Read Isa. II Peter chpt. These other ministers of the Gospel are very quick to show their true nature in the way they present themselves just like a wolf venomously biting and ripping into the flesh of other believers. See Seeker, I preach the gospel unto salvation first and foremost then I disciple. Using the ancient Hebrew mindset of my ancestors, Leah, it is clear as a bell that Kefa is talking about people who have no real knowledge of the Scriptures, or their unstable minds distort what theyve read to their own destruction. I think too many have forgotten what it means TO love. When you lose or change something that significant in your life, we all go through a grieving process. As far as the cult accusation, I don't know how a couple of families supporting each other in a ministry producing Bible teaching videos makes for a scary "cult." Jesus couldnt even do that you know. As an example, you said, I learned that the trinity is nothing but paganism. Yet you later say, I follow Yahusha. (a.k.a. Whenever I hear Christians talking about the Brit Hadashah (New Testament), it almost sounds like their describing another religion, when Yeshua the Messiah clearly stated in the Gospel of Matthew that he did not come to start a new religion, when there was clearly nothing wrong with the religion that God had created from the very beginning, in the Book of Genesis. Come on folks do not be deceived by what other deem a cult when they just want to hear what their itching ears want to hear.. rather than the TRUTH.. Look up Dr Michael Brown.. fire school of ministry and ask Dr. Brown he has great teachings too and will debate you in a second.. Sean try to find someone who loves you enough to share these things with you I think it will be difficult to find them in your own group however..You will have to go outside the camp . Yes, youre correct. And they that are Christs have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. Love one another, love Jesus. When we are in Jesus our debt to breaking the law of God has been paid and we are no longer condemned of our transgressions. 119 ministries teaching tell of Jesus (Yeshua) and the love he has for us This Hebrew roots movement is to assure that we as Christians do not lead astray the Jew in our teaching for they are bound by a different rule than usthey are teaching us that there are certain things meant for the Jewish people that is not for gentiles !!! Those that condemn Christians for gathering on Sunday (Sun-day) are hypocrites! Its wrong, SIN, for me to willingly participate in watching it. Full disclosure: I do the same at times. But I must say, I read Scripture and it doesnt say what you say it says. Obviously the oral system was not a sustainable solution, and it being written down would serve all of us better. But so did Adam and Eve. He then goes on to say that this New Covenant will be based on the very commandments he is giving that very day. A good way to see what the New Covenant entails, please read Jeremiah 31 where God states His law is NOT done away with but to be written on our hearts & minds. Thats not to say that I always agree with every single thing they teach. Obviously the oral system was not a sustainable solution, By thinking that God only understands Hebrew ..by trying to call Him/ YWHW by name . But he was killed, and all his followers were scattered.38 So in the present case, my advice to you is not to interfere with these people, but to leave them alone. Im curious as to your name and this book you talk about, Id really like to read more of your thoughts! It seems emotional and contemptuous? THOSE were the burdensome laws that were noted, not Gods found in the OT Torah. Just LOOK at what JESUS says in Matthew 5:17-18: Matthew 5:17 Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 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