He led the Tigers to their second last-place finish in their 76-year history. LA-Mets Larry Burns Baseball burnt him out. When he was with the Mets, I gave him the name "TOO MUCH EATER" but then again the Orange and Blue has always had big boned hurlers (El Sid. Five years before he became a Met, Lolich threw for 376 innings! Michael He was a big (emphasis: BIG) bust in New York. I would put Rusty for Lolich in second place. to the Village of Leonard. October 4, 2006 Lolich hit a home run in the World Series- and so what does that mean, that he was a great hitter? January 12, 2011 GoMets2006 He lost 39 games his last two seasons in Detroit, with an obese ERA both years. Mickey Lolich did not do too bad with the Mets, He just did not get the The Tigers had some great years back in the late 60's and early 70's- much like the Mets. John Bruce For a fourth starter, on a four man rotation, Lolich was decent. Fact is Lolich was always overweight. Jamey Bumbalo Ramblin' Pete Only two others, Steve Carlton and Randy Johnson, have surpassed him. Mickey Lolich so despised the Mets experience that he sat home and ate donuts for a year rather than play again in New York. But Don Grant was bananas, and he took the first decent offer he received. In that same year he went 13, 13, 12, 11 and 10 innings in 5 games. (With three lefties and a Seaver, the Mets were lefty killers) But the Mets needed hitting. LA-Mets body would be a pretty slender person. December 8, 2006 Mickey pitched to a poor 8-13 record but he also had a 3.22 ERA which is pretty damn good. June 11, 2003 December 20, 2019 Rusty played another decade. End of Line But dad could never pronounce his name right; he always called him "Yo-lich" no matter how many times we corrected him. Jim Snedeker Peter His three wins in the 1968 Series against the Cardinals were the apex of his career. April 20, 2002 snook And complaining about how fat he was? (thankfully returning in '81). I wish the Mets had a pitcher today with a 3.22 ERA. He also hit a home run in Game Two of the Series and outpitched Denny "31 Win" McClain in the Series. He told the New York Press, he pitched with his head and arm not his abdomen. So when your "inning eater" goes 220 and gets a bonus it's beyond comprehension. It would appear that the one party who was jobbed in the deal was Lolich himself. He had terrific stuff. No contest. After one year in New York Lolich retired. God bless him wherever he is and good luck! June 11, 2003 I'll start with full disclosure: I was (and still am) bitter that the Mets gave up one of my favorite players, Rusty Staub, to get Lolich-- who was well past his prime. Doug S. Thanks for the memories, Mick! I find it odd that he didn't play in 1977. Mickey Lolich did not pitch badly for the Mets in 1976. December 20, 2019 Lolich finished his career 12th on the all-time strikeout list with 2,832, second only to Steve Carlton among left-handers. April 6, 2012 Ramblin' Pete Lolich finished his career 12th on the all-time strikeout list with 2,832, second only to Steve Carlton among left-handers. There were some games where the Mets did not give him support. July 15, 2016 Jamey Bumbalo Shari Then they all got old and the team slid into rebuilding- different than the Mets? Lolich - donuts Staub - steak.The food metaphor of trading a steak for a donut is accurate in this and many Mets trades.Would love to see a book written with lists and analysis of all Mets trades. McLain got all the publicity but Lolich got the wins in post season 1968. Jim Snedeker Dianna Jeanneh Jones Usually a bad trade doesn't reveal itself as bad until later when the player that came clearly is not working out. July 15, 2016 April 6, 2012 Lolich was an outstanding pitcher who had just experienced an off season in Detroit. He made the all- star team 3 times, led the AL in wins once, shutouts once, complete games once, innings once, strikeouts once, and losses TWICE.He finished second (1971) and third (1972) in the Cy Young race, and he never finished higher than TENTH PLACE in the league in ERA (finished tenth in both 1971 and 1972).Baseball Reference lists among his top ten in similarity scores: Jerry Koosman, Jerry Reuss, Rick Reuschel, Luis Tiant, Vida Blue, and Joe Niekro.All of that tells me Lolich in his prime was a good pitcher, but nowhere near a HOFer. eddiek So he was left to consider finer arts than boxing. Mike B Cut him some slack. Mickey Lolich captured the sporting headlines in 1968 by upstaging Hall of Famer, Bob Gibson, in the World Series. But this one defied all logic from the beginning. January 12, 2011 Too bad we waited until '76 to bring him in, although his numbers indicated a lack of run support. He made the all- star team 3 times, led the AL in wins once, shutouts once, complete games once, innings once, strikeouts once, and losses TWICE.He finished second (1971) and third (1972) in the Cy Young race, and he never finished higher than TENTH PLACE in the league in ERA (finished tenth in both 1971 and 1972).Baseball Reference lists among his top ten in similarity scores: Jerry Koosman, Jerry Reuss, Rick Reuschel, Luis Tiant, Vida Blue, and Joe Niekro.All of that tells me Lolich in his prime was a good pitcher, but nowhere near a HOFer. Raymond Malcuit Jr. Lolich's main purpose was to pitch and he couldn't even do that for us. Lolich's big-league debut came May 12, 1963, in a 9-3 Detroit loss to the Cleveland Indians. I used to think that Lolich sucked with the Mets, but after reviewing his stats and starts from that year, he was a damn effective #4 starter. I had never heard my mother get so angry at a Mets player. Mickey pitched to a poor 8-13 record but he also had a 3.22 ERA which is pretty damn good. Shickhaus Franks But this one defied all logic from the beginning. In this World Series, Lolich pitched three complete games and allowed only five runs an ERA of 1.67. Although Mick was not the same pitcher in NY that he was in Detroit, everyone seemed to like the guy. A Staub-Kingman combo would have provided more run support for big three, and probably a 90+ win season. As far as who got the better of the Staub for Lolich deal: Rusty went on to have several excellent seasons in a Tiger uniform. Bartolo Colon etc). Donut Shoppe Patron Mickey pitched almost 200 innings in 76, gave up less hits than innings and his era was in the low 3.00's. Shows included risque "girlie acts" with ladies who exposed their KNEES! Really? Lolich was a newcomer that was a big loser, and he reminded us of how stupid the Mets management was for always going after fading superstars. I look at his numbers as a Met and they're not bad. However, Mets management, in their infinite wisdom, wanted to trade Rusty Staub so badly, that they were willing to get anything in return, and actually had to go to great lengths to convince Lolich to come to the Mets. As for his love of donuts, he could have been the prototype for Homer Simpson. The two 13-inning games didn't even count for complete games because they went 15 innings! October 19, 2011 McLain got all the publicity but Lolich got the wins in post season 1968. Mickey had a lifetime 3.44 ERA and 2832 strikeouts. He learned to pitch lefty in order to strengthen his left hand and arm after he lost the use of his right hand for a few years as a child. The Staub trade was ridiculous but not Lolich's fault. Lolich - donuts Staub - steak.The food metaphor of trading a steak for a donut is accurate in this and many Mets trades.Would love to see a book written with lists and analysis of all Mets trades. I agree with Doughnut Shoppe patron. Mickey loved his Harley. Mickey Lolich is one of my favorite players. All he represents for me was one of the many horrendous choices the Mets have made over the years, always going after washed up has-beens past their prime. I find it odd that he didn't play in 1977. Pitchers have good days and then once in a while they hang a curve? Dianna Jeanneh Jones October 13, 2008 Joe was hit by a Bob Moose pitch to drive in the tying run, but the '76 Mets couldn't stand such success, as two singles and a double play grounder by future Mets coach Bill Robinson in the top of the 10th off Skip Lockwood gave the Bucs a 2-1 win. His not being elected to Cooperstown is a major oversight. As Sonny Jurgenson once said "you don't throw the ball with your stomach." John Bruce In that same year he went 13, 13, 12, 11 and 10 innings in 5 games. Lolich was giving one of his typical awful performances in a Mets uniform. Bartolo Colon etc). I don't know if Mickey belongs in Cooperstown but he sure deserved more than 25% of the vote which was his highest showing. October 18, 2008 But what can you expect when the team only averaged 3.4 runs for Seaver per start and 3.3 for Lolich? But then Vail got hurt, and Kranepool and the aging Torre got more playing time.The better plan was to keep Staub, and let Milner and Vail fight for a spot. Mickey liked his doughnuts. =Chuck= Mickey Lolich captured the sporting headlines in 1968 by upstaging Hall of Famer, Bob Gibson, in the World Series. I would put Rusty for Lolich in second place. All he represents for me was one of the many horrendous choices the Mets have made over the years, always going after washed up has-beens past their prime. Reading this brings back my memory of the trade that sent Rusty packing to Detroit. They did not let him pitch the way he wanted. Bartolo Colon etc). Mickey Lolich is one of my favorite players. Ken Akerman April 30, 2009 I don't know, I'm not a Mets expert. However, it baffled me why the '76 Mets, who had Seaver, Koosman and Matlack, would trade one of their best hitters and an every-day player (and they didn't have that many good hitters) for a fourth or fifth starting pitcher. All he represents for me was one of the many horrendous choices the Mets have made over the years, always going after washed up has-beens past their prime. As Sonny Jurgenson once said "you don't throw the ball with your stomach." That's more realistic but generous, I think! Max Power Mickey Lolich did not pitch badly for the Mets in 1976. (Note: others featured in that section were the Knicks' Toby Knight and his wife and Rangers enforcer Nick Fotiu and his very leggy wife and kids)I also had the unfortunate opportunity to score the game against the Phillies where pitcher Larry Christensen belted TWO home runs off Lolich on a hot Sunday afternoon. He learned to pitch lefty in order to strengthen his left hand and arm after he lost the use of his right hand for a few years as a child. As a kid collecting baseball cards and watching ballgames in the '70s, I remember being struck by Lolich's belly. $95 after 10% discount. =Chuck= He pitched very good ball for you. Its not Rustys fault the Tigers traded for hitting when they already had hitting. As a 44-year-old with a beer belly, I can relate. December 20, 2019 They were starting their descent into oblivion and the Staub trade was step in that direction. According to his profile above, his height and weight are listed as follows:Height: 6.01 Weight: 170170 pounds on a 6 ft. 1 in.
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