It is now October, The best countries to leave from are usually Italy or Spain. Hi Roman, thanks for stopping by ! You can check out my Schengen Visa Calculator to help you calculate it all out. I visited Netherlands/Belgium/France/Germany a few years ago, and overstayed by a few months. Unfortunately, I dont think you are able to do anything at this point besides either pause your studies for a later date, take them before June 18th, or try and take them online. You need to be honest about this. Hey John! If shes leaving voluntarily its highly unlikely shed be So from when you entered in Netherlands to when you exited Iceland is calculated. Do you foresee any issues? I also took another London trip in february, returning through Barcelona, giving me two London stamps. Do you know what will happen to me? In Hungary where the government has been in conflict with the EU, attachment grew from 60 percent to 70.3 percent. You should not continue to be in Schengen on an expired student visa it could be an easier target for border control to identify. If 90 days won't be enough, it's not hard to get a tourist visa to lengthen your stay (I believe they're good for six months at a time). 6/21/2018-8/29/2018. Unfortunately, that is the risk that is taken when overstaying. But, believe me, when you are entered intobthe SIS it sticks. If this happens to you, you will find a sticker in place of your Hey Conor! READ ALSO: When is the deadline for Brits to apply for residency in Spain? I was told by the prfecture de police to not leave the country while awaiting this decision. , Hi, I never knew new that I have to first travel to Italy before I could travel to Spain or any schengen countries. What could happen to you is a pricey fine or a complete ban from entering Greece again, or ANY Schengen country within Europe. My fiance and I are in a difficult situation. I received a business visa in the Czech Republic for 1 year. If you are accepted, then everything will be ok! My sister is getting married in Italy next year and that would be just horrible. You most likely have been added to the Schengen Information System (SIS), and when you apply for a new Schengen visa, there is a chance you will get denied the visa. You cannot stay longer than 90 days in other Schengen countries since the D visa has no jurisdiction in other countries. Hi Alpi What you might have read in my comments was for Americans, Canadians or Australians. This all just recently dawned on me, Im not even sure how I will be able to leave here if I cant afford a last minute ticket. Unsure if this idea is feasible hence any advice from you would be greatly appreciated! I recently went to Spain for an Au Pair job. Midnight Express . 3. Thanks for taking the time to write in. This would be for taxes and health care benefit reasons. Now I need to go to Spain. Which country has the most powerful passport in 2023. Also I heard that few from Egypt have extended they through kuestura. Thanks for writing in. Do you think Ill have any problem? I didn't do this intentionally; I thought the same stupid thing a lot of Americans who don't do research before traveling think, that the clock will reset when I leave and re-enter. Not so, it's 90 NON-CONSECUTIVE DAYS WITHIN THE PAST 180 DAYS. Let me know if you have any insight or points of clarification. How often are you coming and going from EU? However, you will be slightly above the grace period if you exit on October 1st. Im really confused on the 90/180 day rule. But, you will be fine. Hi Kamal, usually if you have a visa processing, this will not be counted as an overstay. Hey Lindsey! That is so weird that they gave her an appointment almost triple the amount of her visa-waiver. Just thinking you will find work when you get there isn't a good idea. I was thinking enter via Spain or Italy.. confused as I already kinda made a slight mistake. Now she has to return to Moscow but we are afraid of what might happen. If these trips were just short weekend gettaways, there is no real issue. Dear lindsey Hi David, congrats on the good news of the baby ! I am unsure of how this affects my legal status in other schengen countries. Of course you can try to hire an immigration lawyer, but I am not sure how that will effect the outcome. Hello! Letter from Laura about overstaying []. Next post: What Countries are in the Schengen Zone, Previous post: Cheap Flight Work Around to Europe. Thanks for writing in. flights cancelled due to coronavirus restrictions. Hey Peter do you hold a Turkish passport? Since my request for extension hasnt been responded to yet, what are the likely scenario fines- how much? Work permit under process Hi! I flew out of Copenhagen, as I was with my host parents at their house in Sweden which is near the Copenhagen airport. Do I need to be out of the country after 110 days are over (i.e. It is your responsibility to abide by the laws of the countries you are visiting. I am just came from Germany for the purpose of study. Hey Denise, a lot of people seem to overstay this way! Before leaving Spain I went to a number of offices to see if this would be ok and finally got an answer from the immigration person at the national police- he said this was fine because when I re-entered Schengen in September it would start my 90 day tourist visa. And if so, in your opinion, would it likely be enough of a grey area that I could get away without any penalties or bans? unscathed. Can I travel on the last day of my Schengen visa? Hey Lindsey, its amazing what you are doing! I overstayed my schengen visa in Italy by about a month during the corona virus. Would you have any experience on passport control in these countries and if they would have a problem with just two days of overstay? What alerted you to knowing about Schengen? So she cannot just change her tourist visa into a student visa within the next 11 days, unfortunately. I do have one trip planned, I plan on flying to Bilbao, Spain for three days to see a friend of mine from the states. Also, make sure you have all the doctors receipts or hospital stays that would not have allowed you to leave properly. Did you get a Schengen visa for a certain amount of time? and i have stay more than 90 days almost 110 days so its overstay visa by 20 days almost Do you think this would be a problem? Not really sure how to handle this, i figure you may have run into a similar situation, Hey Mark Have you been in Poland 14 months straight? I did not know I overstayed and was really scared. You can apply for long-term visas if you know you will stay extra time. Now Im heading into Morocco and wanted to travel back into Europe for 3 weeks or so, but I realize this overstay might cause an issue. Will he be allowed to ever come back into Europe? Will they notice I had overstayed by one day on accident on my precious trip or will they let me explain? If you want more help on that, you can always email me through my contact page. So I booked a flight to France to stay with my girlfriend for a couple weeks, and Im super concerned that my overstay will be picked up somehow. because once youre banned from one Schengen country, youre banned from all of them. Overstaying in Schengen area. I am a bit concerned about our status and worried as to what course of action we should take next. No, they shouldnt cancel your visa for no reason. Whether you get caught or not really depends on the border control agent and if they are familiar with the extension rules and Schengen law. he applied again for the permit of stay for the last 2 months but he couldnt get it. Hi Lindsey, your website is awesome, great work. I have done some Research in Internet. We visited an legal aid office in Spain who told us, after hearing the whole story, that if you manage to stay in Spain for 3 years illegally you can then apply for residency, which involves documenting that youve been in Spain the whole time through a paper trail of leases, bank statements, whatever. 92 days. Hello! Important point: I have just enough money to get home, NOT ENOUGH FOR A FINE ON THE WAY OUT, not even on a credit card, they're all maxed out (long story). I went to the guard bord in the airport to fix my papers and to be legal !! So he should be prepared to answer this. There is a stamp on my passport for my entry date into Hungary. Btw I also wanted to post this so if others have this situation, It could maybe help them also. Also relevantly, I had to replace my passport about 6 weeks ago, so what I have is clean (like 4 stamps two of which are to and from Boston about 4 weeks ago). Today I received a fine of 600 should be paid or objected within 2 weeks! I am currently living in Germany with my girlfriend. Your blog is wonderful and very informative to us who have a lot of questions regarding our Schengen visa. My understanding is, if you are out of the country you will start 0 day again. You will not enjoy your life till you get a stamp passing through guard. I think it was stamped in haste, and not run through any device; the agent was quick with me because there was a bit of a squabble going on nearby, between his colleague and a passenger without a passport; they removed him from the train. At Furnel, Inc. our goal is to find new ways to support our customers with innovative design concepts thus reducing costs and increasing product quality and reliability. Thanks in advance! Im a Canadian citizen staying in Spain on the 90 day limit. Is this rule really enforced? Hello! can be disconcerting? I am a US citizen currently in Lithuania where my student visa for Germany (confusing I know) is being processed. First, thank you for all your tips and advice here. And what are the penalties for overstaying? Step 2: On the Select the module section, choose either File Number or Citizens of certain countries.. Hi Lindsey: My parents moved to Prague for work and my dads company was supposed to be handling the extended visa for my Mom. Hello! Will he have any issues going home? If you are planning of moving to Europe, you should try for the German passport for sure! Cheers! Or I completely band for few years automatically. WebAdd a Comment. I am a US citizen who overstayed my tourist visa in Spain. But what if I leave through Spain? we tried to apply a family reunification but that time he hasnt had a regular job so the immigratoin told us that most likely it will be rejected.so we didnt push through the application. Once your type D visa (student) has expired, the EU rules do give you a right to stay for another 3 months following the expiry of your type D visa in other Schengen countries provided you have not traveled to another Schengen country in the previous 6 months. I was a student for 4 years and this year, I have been working. Do you know what will happen to me? Other non-EU nationals in a similar situation should therefore also contact Spanish immigration authorities. Thanks for writing in. An overstay and then coming back for 89 days might be frowned upon. I am seriously anxious over here. i have a long term us visa. Best of luck to you! Hi Todd was your work permit only valid for 90 days? Thank you! So once you leave, the counter stops at wherever you are within your 90 days IN. I plan to travel back for the holidays and be in Germany on the 4th of November which will have allowed more than 180 days since I arrived there in may. Denmark and Sweden have border control due to some temporary issues. Penalty for overstay - Portugal. I definitely want to come back to Spain, so risking a long ban would not be worth it for me. My fiancee and I were married earlier this year. On the 24th of May I finished and went to Spain, and basically have been travelling since then. However, I dont think you can technically re-enter Schengen due to you having exited without a visa processing, and 6 days left on your Schengen visa. i decided to stay from 2013-2015 to help him with the finances. Hey Lindsay, not sure if you remember but Ive been living in Polands for 1.5 years now and stayed here 100% on the bilateral agreement. When they say that you are banned they generally mean it. Nobody fined me or said anything at the airport upon my exit. ANY advise. I am from New Zealand and I have been living in london for the past two years on a T2 youth mobility visa, this expired and I went travelling for summer in spain. Hey again Lindsey my name is Fahim i have written to u a comment about my situation on 24th Nov 16 and u answer me ( Hi Fahim! I am a EU citizen with a EU passport (but living in the U.S as permanent resident), Ill be traveling with a U.S citizen this summer. It was just explaining how it works. Right now there are a lot of issues with immigration in Europe, so agents are quick to assume. She moved to Spain in 2006 to be The Daily Telegraphs Madrid correspondent and then worked for six years as Editor of The Local Spain. But visa options for Americans is studying, getting work sponsorship from a company, Here is a government website of Spain that gives you all the information. But honestly, if youre flying out of Arlanda airport (Stockholm), there have been times they have never even checked my passport other than the check-in agent. Hi! If yesthen you have some other issues you are dealing with other than overstaying a tourist visa you would be illegally working, which comes with other penalties (Imprisonment for 3 years, fines up to 45,000). I personally think you should leave and then apply from Australia, and just see how it goes. Contact the author. However, can anyone tell me what range of fines have been levied for exceeding the Schengen Zone limit? She has the right to contact the German embassy in her home country and ask if she has been added to the Schengen Information System due to this issue. And then again in Marseille they did it again. I am receiving a lot of job offers and interview calls now. You go through exit control in Spain, and thats where theyd get you. They went to Europe on Schengen visa from Australia in February and arrived in Paris and then went to Portugal. 2. its expired. My question is- do you have any tips for me? Book a meeting Hire the lawyer Was this content helpful? Hi Julius! Thanks for commenting about your issue. Well there is not much he can do in terms of if he gets caught. United Kingdom nationals travelling to the European Union and Schengen Area Member States are already going through a lot of changes, including additional checks at ports of entry, and even entry restrictions which have been imposed on third countries amid COVID-19. Thanks for your service to the red, white & blue! Im feeling okay about my exit, but still definitely a little nervous. A few years ago a man posted on this subject. Your visa would be exhausted then. I appreciate you writing this blog. Does my permit automatically expire after a divorce? You will need to carry your old passport with you for your appointment for proof of the student visa. Thanks so much! They would have the same for Greece. The bilateral still works! But shoulda, woulda, coulda, right? Was that at the same time as your NIE? You did not state your citizenship, but if youre from a visa-free country (US, Aus, Canada, etc.) Maybe it has a case number. Once he receives the Spanish visa, he can enter on that and be just fine. I have a few questions and I really hope you can help me. They could still deny the visa if they feel like this was a serious issue but you can always appeal it and explain what happened and that you have payed the fine. Ask what to do. It cannot be from a Schengen country!! It doesnt matter where you wait for your decision for your visa to Sweden, as long as you do not enter Sweden while your visa is processing. . There are a lot of issues I see building up in the story you wrote. the invited us pay for everything and we just want to be together before we have to leave again. Now that Im applying for the visa to go to Iceland for a vacation with my boyfriend, I just got an email stating why I overstayed for 1 day, I was so surprised by this, I mean I thought Im still fine since the visa was still valid until August. (Not qutie sure). Please visit the help centre for more information. NZ citizens have something called Bilateral agreements () which means you can actually extend your time in Schengen due to pre-existing travel agreements. After Coronavirus I would love to visit Europe and my boyfriend, but I dont know if Im banned, If I have to pay a fine or if waiting 18 months to go would be enough. So,my stay right now for waiting my residency permit,will be counted as over stay or they will consider me, since i applied for legalistaion of my stay. Likely to be fined/banned on the way out? Good luck, Rao! New Zealand apparently has a bilateral visa agreement with certain countries, Spain included. Its her passport, her visa, and her responsibility! But I want to return to Spain a week later. I didnt even realize until today that Id done anything wrong until I started looking into EU visas for other reasons. If you are caught without a proper visa, you can actually be banned and that will ruin your chances in the future from playing ball in other Schengen countries. And of course, next time be careful Safe travels! Technically, you have the right to a new visa since your ban has been completed, however, they still have the right to deny the visa or even give you very little holiday days within their country. It is when you are caught not leaving. http://www.euro-dollar-currency.com/overstaying_schengen_visa.htm. After about a minute I said, France (as in thats where I came into the EU from). No idea about others that are flying under the radar maybe the threat of fines for those employing or providing accommodation might be enough to smoke them out. In the past, I accidentally overstayed by 3 days but flew out from Madrid just fine. I was told to speak to an immigration lawyer as I am also looking to get my residence just not exactly sure what a lawyer could possible have the power to do? Hey Alberto, congrats with the opportunity to work with the choreographer! Also, the fact that his passport has no stamp is going to cause a lot of questions when he exits. Please check your spam folders, or search your inbox for contact@everyoneinbetween.com, Hi ! You need a Schengen tourist (C) visa to travel after your D type visa expires. If you have a specific job in mind, your employer can help you arrange the correct paperwork. Your visa run plan wont work in Schengen (you cant just acquire 90 more days by exiting and re-entering a couple days later). In this way I overstayed 112 days. Any thoughts or suggestions? Usually if you are looking to extend a visa in a country, you cannot leave that country until you get a response from the processing. I think you should be okay due to your citizenship and since you are on your way out of Schengen and it was only a couple days. direct flights from Chicago, New York, London, Moscow, Kiev, etc. I suggest it, but if you wanna rough it, it is totally possible and hundreds have and are doing it right now! They could mention it to you when entering and can choose to deny you entry or give you less days. So, since the end of July, I decided to living with my boyfriend while looking for another family. And it would be helpful to know how many days it was exceeded by. You are very brave! Im an american currently studying in Spain on a 6 month visa that began Sept. 19, 2017. As for if you want to come back and stay in Greece for more than 90 days, you will need to apply for a residence permit based on your husbands citizenship. It is definitely interesting for my readers to see a comment about someone who had consequences for overstaying. If you know you are going to be staying longer than what your visa has given you, most people apply for the family reunification visa while still in India. If you are an EU citizen with an EU passport, none of this applies to you personally. The student visa was always a sham tho, it was just a way to reside legally in spain and I never really went to any school,I was given papers stating I was a student every year by an old teacher I once had who understood my desire to live in spain so he would give me a certificate that I was his student so I could continue living as a student. as you know I had to renew my NIE every year. Freedom Has Become A Dirty Word In The USA, Saying I Did That Is The Prime Directive Of Life, How To Find Cool Jobs (Or At Least How I Do It), Blog Post #3,650 Why You Should Listen To Your Visitors, Travel The World On Dividend Income A Stock Dividend Investing Primer For Travelers, Airlines Not Seating Families Together Is A Scam. Hey Darine, thanks for stopping by! However if you know you have overstayed, you should be making plans on how you will exit instead of stay longer. Hello, Brenda! Sounds like a blast. Hey Dominique! Louise. So i booked a flight to leave from Sevilla to Bristol England and the booked date totaling 5 months in Spain. I would also contact the U.S. Embassy in Iceland (anonymously) and ask. I am going back to Spain after the 3 month wait period. I am currently waiting for my work visa in the Czech Republic to be processed. Usually countries want you to exit and re-enter to activate your tourist visa. On leaving the guy noted I was overstaying my visa and I told him how I had been doing breast cancer research and he felt pity on me and let me leave without any symbols/ banning. This past June as I was headed back to the US after 6 months in Europe I was stopped at border control in Germany. Otherwise, you should maybe speed up your wedding date and apply for a spousal visa. Was wondering if you have encountered someone who overstayed their schengen visa, left the schengen area without getting/paying a fine or warning from the border officer and was eventually able to successfully reapply for a schengen visa? However, if there are flights available from Romania back to the US, they could argue that you could have left if you wanted to. Hope this is okay . Hello! Can you try leaving a day early? A month before I leave, I called them And i said that we would not get married and ask the woman if there would be any problem leaving the country or wanting to return, she said no, that everything would be fine. Thanks for your comment. So sorry to hear about your experience with covid. However, he swipped my passport and said he will put a note. Just happened today (April 11th .2017) when I was heading back home to USA exiting from Dsseldorf, Germany. Kiki, Hey Kiki! This is great information for those looking! I am working in France currently and am leaving one week after my year-long work visa expires. So basically, you should have left 90 days ago. Will I have any problems if I try to leave or will you recommend flying out from another country? If your visa has expiredthis means you have no right to be in the country. Especially since you overstayed by 1 day . Besides, I am not willing to pay the fine which is ridiculous(lets say 300 or more) as I dont have that amount of money. I COMPLETELY overlooked the fact that everything is now computerized and that they could scan my new passport and see all the data from my old passportand see that Ive overstayed. The question is: can I go to Bulgaria or another non schengen area country in E.U? The only other stamps are from Morocco. Fines for exceeding the 90 day visa free period in Greece range from 600 to 1,200. I wouldnt trust a legal aid that basically told you to do something illegalsuch as over stay for 3 years. Is a ninety day tourist visa in the Schengen area automatically granted for US citizens after a Type D visa expires? If I took a train or flew to Italy or Spain and took a direct flight to the US out of one of these countries, would I be more likely to get away scathe free? I am wondering if you have heard anything about Iceland being a good country to exit from if one has overstayed. He needed to apply for the extension before his tourist visa ran out. Also, you cannot just stay home for 30 days and then come back to Europe and be cleared. Usually when you apply for extensions, you can stay in the country while it is pending. If you are discovered to have lied, then they will absolutly deny you entry if they have reason to suspect. Hi Lindsey, I was deported from Denmark on February/2017 and banned from schengen area for 6 years. Hello, So you should be fine. All I have in my passport is my entry stamp in Frankfurt last September, along with a student visa that expired 60 days after I entered Spain, as well as my Spanish NIE that expired may 31. just a little update, i made it back (to the UK) from Hungary with no problems.. to be honest the worst advice i got was from my own Embassy in Budapest (uk consulate) who told me to seek a lawyer and or go to a police station haha. Thanks for your help! he didnt fingerprint me or let me sign any documents but he also didnt gave me an exit stamp. Did he enter your name in a computer? If there were any days, you minus that from your 90 days allowed. when i was exiting to return to Dubai from EU i exit from Spain and i didnt have any problem when i was exiting and i didnt pay any fine just got stamp on my passport of date when i exit Reading this was helpful! Sorry to hear about the fine. Even if I make it out without a fine, is it possible or likely that I'll be denied entrance on revisiting in, say, a few months' time? Hi Lindsey! People can be caught in other countries if the guards look at the stamps and do the math but it wouldnt be written down electronically if youve never been caught before or you are in a different country. I was thinking of going from Italy to England, stay in England two weeks then go to Paris a few days before my flight home, and just avoid London airports, but now I didnt realise they would pull you up for Schengen in England too! On trying to return to the country, she was denied entry. So it could actually draw attention to your situation. So Ive basically overstayed my visa for close to 2 years now. Im an American who has been living in Spain for the past year and a half on a student visa. Hello! Would you advise getting a new Passport before leaving or waiting until i get back to NY. I entered the country on July 21, 2017 with the fact that I had 90 days to get my work permit/visa in order. Now, i will be leaving Spain to go live in New Zealand on a working holiday visa. FYI my return to US with my kids is Rome-Zurich-LA Any advice would be a big help.Thanks. Thank you for taking the time with your question. It is a good thing that border control never said anything to you when you left, but they might have it on record of the entry and exits which could cause an issue when your family tries to re-apply for a short stay tourist schengen visa. I had to turn in my last visa renewal documents a couple months late (we have to renew every year), but my application was taken without a fuss, and Ive been here studying and teaching while I waited to get my new permit. Now we payed the fine and we re-made the visa processdo we have more chance to get it now u think? Romania isnt where the problem would be, it would be exiting Italy. I am now planning to stay in the Netherlands for the next 6 months(my residence permit from Italy is valid till mid of next year). Will I have overstayed if I stick to that plan? You exceed your visa-free stay when you are staying in the Schengen area for more than 90 days within a period of 180 days. Should I cancel trip? My opinion is if they did not ban you, then you have every right to enter again (just be very careful to make sure you are within the 90/180 rule on tourist visa in the future). i have been out from schengen for 3 years now and i want to be with my husband. Hello there, Im an American citizen who has spent the last few years studying in Barcelona. Czech is notorious for catching people, so Id get down to southern Europe and fly back to the U.S. direct or layover in UK or something. Im in mirth and glad to have found your blog. They spoke me, its ok you paid the fine now chapter was closed. Whats up, Reggie! You cant go back into Schengen tomorrow. We want to get married because firstly we love each other a lot and secondly so I may be able to stay here and work. The validity period of the visa doesnt matter if you dont respect the days they allow you. I hope I have no troubles re-entering. You really cannot keep on coming and going like this because it digs you deeper into issues. hi there! It is expiring beginning of June, is it possible to simply fly to London and then re-enter the Schengen area and be able to stay another 90 days on a Schengen tourist visa? My advice is to move on with the travel plans and head to UK and Croatia. I was out of Schengen zone for a couple of weeks and returned back, again arriving through Brussels. The immigration board for visas will see your previous visa history when you apply for a new visa, so if asked, dont lie about it. I'm clearly in violation. Probably! but my husband and i want to apply for family reunification now in denmark using my new passport since he is also turkish living in denmark. Also, make sure you have not started working yet until your new visa/residence card has been granted. My problem is this a family of American friends came to Portugal in February last, they entered portugal as tourists so the 90 day rule applied to them. My suggestion here would be to stop work and leave the country and then apply for a new visa once outside of Schengen.