@keyframes ibDwUVR1CAykturOgqOS5{0%{transform:rotate(0deg)}to{transform:rotate(1turn)}}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq{--sizePx:0;font-size:4px;position:relative;text-indent:-9999em;border-radius:50%;border:4px solid var(--newCommunityTheme-bodyTextAlpha20);border-left-color:var(--newCommunityTheme-body);transform:translateZ(0);animation:ibDwUVR1CAykturOgqOS5 1.1s linear infinite}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq,._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq:after{width:var(--sizePx);height:var(--sizePx)}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq:after{border-radius:50%}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq._2qr28EeyPvBWAsPKl-KuWN{margin:0 auto} We are mainly confused about at the next end step and until end of turn effects. If you run Obeka, Brute Chronologist you can play stuff like Goryo's Vengeance, and she stops eot sacrifices. by benjameenbear 2 years ago, Post Card Kingdom $624 - 564. I'm not certain the Commander has enough explosive power to consistently win vs 2 decks, but I have very good results in 1 v 1 with my Rakdos deck, and it often has spare cards by the end of the game, be it wipe or removal, because the deck just runs so much of those, with lots of the removal hitting more than 1 target (I love stuff like Phyrexian Purge, Fire Covenant, Make an Example, and Volcanic Offering can each be a terror of a card, and a deck running all of them has lots of pinpoint removal that will clear lots of stuff out. The Commander's Quarters is your Magic the Gathering source that helps you Command Your Budget! ._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4{width:100%}._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4:hover ._31L3r0EWsU0weoMZvEJcUA{display:none}._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4 ._31L3r0EWsU0weoMZvEJcUA,._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4:hover ._11Zy7Yp4S1ZArNqhUQ0jZW{display:block}._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4 ._11Zy7Yp4S1ZArNqhUQ0jZW{display:none} 2) If there are any attacking and blocking creatures, they're removed from combat. 513.1a].) Magic the Gathering, FNM is TM and copyright Wizards of the Coast, Inc, a subsidiary of Hasbro, Inc. All rights reserved. Edit: adding comprehensive rules reference. Let's Brew with Obeka, Brute Chronologist as our commander on. 603.3). In order for it to be considered a shortcut loop you must propose all actions involved including your opponents. This is also why myriad works. Commander / EDH Multiplayer Tokens UBR (Grixis) Cobara86. by darrenhabib 2 years ago, Post I love commander a lot, but man the prices get me down. obeka, brute chronologist interaction Asked by The_Overlord_666 1 year ago. ._1aTW4bdYQHgSZJe7BF2-XV{display:-ms-grid;display:grid;-ms-grid-columns:auto auto 42px;grid-template-columns:auto auto 42px;column-gap:12px}._3b9utyKN3e_kzVZ5ngPqAu,._21RLQh5PvUhC6vOKoFeHUP{font-size:16px;font-weight:500;line-height:20px}._21RLQh5PvUhC6vOKoFeHUP:before{content:"";margin-right:4px;color:#46d160}._22W-auD0n8kTKDVe0vWuyK,._244EzVTQLL3kMNnB03VmxK{display:inline-block;word-break:break-word}._22W-auD0n8kTKDVe0vWuyK{font-weight:500}._22W-auD0n8kTKDVe0vWuyK,._244EzVTQLL3kMNnB03VmxK{font-size:12px;line-height:16px}._244EzVTQLL3kMNnB03VmxK{font-weight:400;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText)}._2xkErp6B3LSS13jtzdNJzO{-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;margin-top:13px;margin-bottom:2px}._2xkErp6B3LSS13jtzdNJzO ._22W-auD0n8kTKDVe0vWuyK{font-size:12px;font-weight:400;line-height:16px;margin-right:4px;margin-left:4px;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._2xkErp6B3LSS13jtzdNJzO .je4sRPuSI6UPjZt_xGz8y{border-radius:4px;box-sizing:border-box;height:21px;width:21px}._2xkErp6B3LSS13jtzdNJzO .je4sRPuSI6UPjZt_xGz8y:nth-child(2),._2xkErp6B3LSS13jtzdNJzO .je4sRPuSI6UPjZt_xGz8y:nth-child(3){margin-left:-9px} A couple days ago my friend told me the heard about a quirky rules lawyer-y interaction involving [[Obeka, Brute Chronologist]] that I just love if it's true. Card Text: . .LalRrQILNjt65y-p-QlWH{fill:var(--newRedditTheme-actionIcon);height:18px;width:18px}.LalRrQILNjt65y-p-QlWH rect{stroke:var(--newRedditTheme-metaText)}._3J2-xIxxxP9ISzeLWCOUVc{height:18px}.FyLpt0kIWG1bTDWZ8HIL1{margin-top:4px}._2ntJEAiwKXBGvxrJiqxx_2,._1SqBC7PQ5dMOdF0MhPIkA8{vertical-align:middle}._1SqBC7PQ5dMOdF0MhPIkA8{-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;display:-ms-inline-flexbox;display:inline-flex;-ms-flex-direction:row;flex-direction:row;-ms-flex-pack:center;justify-content:center} A trigger waiting for "the beginning of the next end step" would trigger on the next turn's End Step (assuming it happens, your opponent might have an Obeka too). ._12xlue8dQ1odPw1J81FIGQ{display:inline-block;vertical-align:middle} 11/10/2020: Ending the turn this way means the following things happen in order: 1) All spells and abilities on the stack are exiled. Before you even reach the "I am demonstrating a loop" statement you're attempting to repeat the board state already, or your loop hasn't resolved a single "NO" response yet. Feeds | Abilities that say "at the beginning of the next end step" (or any other ability that says "at", "whenever", or "when") express triggered abilities, and almost all those triggered abilities go on the stack (including all of them that say "at"). This includes spells and abilities that can't be countered. DMCA requests | If you're using Goad effects, War Tax can let an opponent have a way around them, if there is a tax to attack Goad fails, and War Cadence is absolutely devastating with Goad, even a tax of 1 to block can make blocking impossible for weenie decks, and you can use either on anyone's turn. If the turn ends with Obeka (or Sundial of the Infinite). The gamestate has now returned to where it was before. Articles and comments are user-submitted and do not represent official endorsements of this site. Obeka, Brute Chronologist. Obeka, Brute Chronologist rulings: 2020-11-10: Ending the turn this way means the following things happen in order: 1) All spells and abilities on the stack are exiled. I use Mass Diminish more aggressively, to make a player hyper-vulnerable to attackers (and make them unable to counter attack), getting two casts is just savage. by Maelk. 4 4 4 comments Best Add a Comment maelstrom197 1 yr. ago From Obeka's reminder text: (Exile all spells and abilities from the stack. This isn't even a real thing. It cant include conditional actions, where the outcome of a game event determines the next action a player takes. This kind of ability goes on the stack after it triggers (C.R. .s5ap8yh1b4ZfwxvHizW3f{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText);padding-top:5px}.s5ap8yh1b4ZfwxvHizW3f._19JhaP1slDQqu2XgT3vVS0{color:#ea0027} 603.7b, 719.1b), even on future end steps, so that in the case of "Sacrifice it at the beginning of the next end step" (see also [[Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker]]), that ability won't "[s]acrifice it" even in future end steps. Types: Legendary Creature Ogre Wizard. Because as niche as it sounds, I definitely want to run thawing glaciers in an obeka deck, and an extra mana could be the difference between entering an infinite turn loop with isochron. by Cobara86, Time after Time I reasoned that the lore behind him had something to do with the ancient past, but I thought he was even older -- perhaps the beloved he sought was the legendary Rebbec! This means that the control changing effect will still end and the artifact will revert to its previous controller. I can't say I've heard of not being allowed to activate a free ability that shuffles your deck, especially because you might end up with the same card on top. Now, if the End Step began, all those "beginning of the end step" triggers have triggered and are on the stack waiting to resolve.The interesting thing is that if you end the turn with them waiting to resolve, the triggers get exiled and the game advances to the Cleanup Step. Sets / Printings. Another value card is Dredge the Mire, which can cheat in the 3 worst creatures in people's graveyards, note certain creatures will kill you if you control them, so check before playing! by JovialJovian 2 years ago, Post Rulings. Ending the turn this way means the following things happen in order: 1) All spells and abilities on the stack are exiled. by Astroburrito, Kess Wizzards Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. "102.1. : The player whose turn it is may end the turn. It ends continuous effects that have a duration of "until end of turn" or "this turn". It also has the active player discard down to hand size if they're over their hand size limit. Out of stock. Opponents upkeep, spell is resolving, whatever. You are not the active player. 1x Crumbling Necropolis. -. "If any triggered abilities do trigger during this process, theyre put onto the stack during the cleanup step. by Mimicvat 2 years ago, Post EDH decks and themes I'm currently playing! Flip (for another land, maybe a better rock, there is Thought Vessel, but fixing is sweet in Grixis). ._3oeM4kc-2-4z-A0RTQLg0I{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-pack:justify;justify-content:space-between} All in all, lots of Magic on my mind. 1 available @ $0.47 . Legendary Creature Ogre Wizard. The same applies to abilities that begin with "At end of combat, " (e.g., [[Kytheon, Hero of Akros]]), and the same applies to delayed triggered abilities that specify a duration, as in the examples "Until end of turn, whenever" and "Whenever this turn, " (C.R. by Olive_pdx, unthinkable apocalypse you're trying to force a different outcome via infinite loop. .ehsOqYO6dxn_Pf9Dzwu37{margin-top:0;overflow:visible}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu{height:24px}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu{border-radius:2px}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu:focus,._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu:hover{background-color:var(--newRedditTheme-navIconFaded10);outline:none}._38GxRFSqSC-Z2VLi5Xzkjy{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._2DO72U0b_6CUw3msKGrnnT{border-top:none;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText);cursor:pointer;padding:8px 16px 8px 8px;text-transform:none}._2DO72U0b_6CUw3msKGrnnT:hover{background-color:#0079d3;border:none;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-body);fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-body)} Has Purphoros been working well for you? This was a great tutorial and explanation of the deck, and well worth the upvote! So you would then need to make a choice to not activate Obeka? TappedOut.js Blog Widget. Patrons help maintain an ad-light experience, and are never shown ads. "At the beginning of the next end step" is now used when something needs to trigger after the second main phase. Good job, WotC. ", Edit: the majority was right. Ashes to Ashes and Reckless Spite also exist fwiw, and if you aren't certain you'll have creatures out, Tergrid's Shadow can do a bit of work, as can Plaguecrafter or Demon's Disciple, cards Sedris can recur for 2B even. If you want to completely negate an end step trigger you can wait until it is put on the stack, and then end the turn in response. 603.7b; see also [[Bonus Round]] and [[Glimpse of Nature]]). 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